Anything further on Batis lenses following your visit to Zeiss? Nice wrote up on Milvus, but I am totally confused by Zeiss marketing. Milvus is strictly manual focusing, best suited for use with an evf, focus peaking, etc, all of which Canon and Nikon lack. Because of the need for an adaptor, Milvus cannot be considered ideal on Sony E mount. Also, there is the issue of size and weight. In that case, doesn’t Loxia make more sense? So many birds, I am wondering if a bird brain is behind the whole program? Or is this a sophisticated attempt to throw stuff against the wall and see what sticks?